Vacation Planning

December 8th, 2009 Leave a comment Go to comments

Planning the upcoming trip to Ko Lanta required a more effort than I had originally thought. Instead of calling a travel agent in Bangkok to set up the type of trip they think is best for me, or most profitable for them, I did it myself.

The first thing was to think of a place unlike Phuket, Samui or Krabi, one that I did not hear about all the time. I used Google maps to show various coastal areas and then entered “hotel” in the “Search Maps” box. The red markers show the hotels and resorts known to Google. In some mainland areas below Ko Lanta I saw just one or two markers. That is too remote for us. The older areas such as Phuket and Krabi have markers everywhere. That is too built up.

Ko Lanta seemed about right, and its being an island should probably contribute a bit of remoteness. The ferry boats still allow my car, which I want since the two islands are 16 km long.


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I checked out several hotels that appeared to be in a good location. Google maps with the satellite view on, or Google Earth could tell me if there was a beach in front of the hotel. I settled on the Blue Bayou hotel near the southern tip of the island. The location was perfect and it was amazingly inexpensive. The few reviews I found were good. I zoomed in with Google Earth to see what the immediate area looked like but could see no buildings anywhere around there. I thought it was probably under the trees.

You can check out the Blue Bayou for yourself, just put your cursor over the red dot at the southern tip of the island.

Later, when trying to get a hotel along the way in Suratthani city I was clicking on hotel markers in the center of the city and getting places that were a beachfront hotels, or places whose text said they were way over on Koh Samui island. I checked out marker after marker that clearly was not where the map indicated. It took several hours of searching and checking to find a few hotels that were actually in that city.

That made me check on the Blue Bayou. I called up and asked if they were on Ko Lanta island. They were not. They were in Krabi city and not at the beach. That explained the great price. I canceled that reservation, started looking again and found and checked the Moonlight Bay resort. Interestingly, the most complete map I found of hotels on Ko Lanta was at their site, a scan of a paper map (click the map symbol at the lower left of their home page).

Google maps still can give you a good overall view of things, and in some cases is accurate. It did get Moonlight Bay resort at the right location, but you need to use one or more independent sites to check these locations. I used agoda, not necessarily the best site, but it had its own map. These maps are based on Google maps, but the independent web sites mark the hotel locations themselves, just as I did on the map in the previous post.

Using the internet is frustrating. Google maps is the only general mapping tool that has any information at all about hotels and other things in this part of the world, so you have to use it. I think many of its locations are derived from people simply entering numeric coordinates incorrectly and not checking their work afterwards. For example the Sevenseas hotel is in the ocean about 20 km southeast of Ko Lanta.

I am relying less on reviews of hotels, especially on sites that sell reservations. Agoda, mentioned above, is an example. Having read their reviews, and then experienced the hotels, it seems they are removing many of the negative reviews, leaving only a token negative reivew or two.

When I look for a specific travel destination or hotel, I often find many general websites that seek to deal with all destinations or hotels have struggled to be higher in the search rankings appear first, obscuring websites actually written for the specific destination or hotel. Some times I must wade through several pages of search results to find a page that contains real information. The unwritten rule for nearly all these sites is not to show the phone number. If they did, I could call and find out information directly, reserve without their unwanted services and perhaps find out the name of the hotel’s own website.

At first appearance these sites seem authoritative. Clicking on them often gets a general page with no reference to the desired information, but instead a request to “enter a description of this destination” or “find a hotel in Thailand” or “be the first to review this hotel” or a sales pitch for their own reservation services. A great example of this is the Virtual Tourist site I hit when looking for Nang Rong information. At this time I see it finally does have one hotel, but the rest is devoid of any content. How they get so high in the rankings (I entered “nang rong, Thailand”) I don’t know.

  1. December 9th, 2009 at 18:46 | #1

    Hey, we had a similar problem with Lanta. It`s just to much of a secret pardise to have lots of info on the web. We pre-booked in the north of the island as we wanted to be somplace close to Saladan. As it turned out we could have just went without booking and chose when we got there, the island resorts were virtually empty along with the beaches.
    Hope you have a great time.

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